Am I me?

[PK|NssB]

Are we living in a simulated environment?

I think this is such a fine topic of debate. The argument stipulates that one of the following must be true:



(1) the human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a “posthuman” stage

(2) any posthuman civilization is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof)

(3) we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation. It follows the belief that there is a significant chance that we will one day become post humans who run ancestor-simulations is false, unless we are currently living in a simulation.


If what the Mayans would have us believe is true, then the above points are pretty moot :D



Am I me?

NssB

[Pedro]

Ha, Funny you mention this. I was bored during school so sat in on an A-Level Physics lesson (Happened to be Elite, Benjy and Iceman's lesson :D)

They went through exactly this, whether or not humans think for themselves or whether we're being told what to do by a un-named force. They came to the conclusion that even if we do think for ourselves it cannot be proved for or against that we do or do not. We then moved onto (Insert physicians name here)'s Theory of whether computers could become like us and that they could have the same sensations (Not an innuendo) and feelings. ;)

Sorry If I got it wrong Ben/Adam, I wasn't paying much attention :D

[PK|Dead Eagle]

Sorry If I got it wrong Ben/Adam, I wasn't paying much attention :D

no1 ever does pay attention in school.. unless you are a retarded nerd :dorky::dorky: who doesnt play counter-strike!

[PK|Elite]

Lesson Summay: Humans have no free will.

Advanced Quntum Mechanics is an extremely deep subject which is why so many people including Einstein hate(ed) the theory, Experiments by these people to prove the theory wrong have all failed and ended up creating an adverse effect..

Random doesnt exist according to quantum mechanics as a variable is effected by another variable, meaning changes that we arn't aware that are happening can have a huge effect on things we can visably see. Lookup Chaos Theory.

This can be said for human beings. Humans are nothing but atoms and electrical energy which trigger responses when information is sent to the brain, other wise known as reactions. Personality just means electrical impulses are wired to differant places in the brain which in turn causes a differant reaction.

If i were to punch someone in the face, depending on the person i will either get a punch back or an earfull. A third person there to defend me will be the variable that will effect if i get hit or not...

[Pedro]

I'm guessing someone payed attention (Or used google)

[PK|Elite]

a level physics isnt something you dont listen to

[Pedro]

Meh I was going through my Essay.. btw, I'm going to take it as an AS next year and drop Media...

[PK|NssB]

a level physics isnt something you dont listen to

I have an A level (Higher) in Physics......and I for one never studied Chaos Theory.

That said, quantum entanglement is a fascinating subject. Extrapolating the theory of strings back to the 'big bang', would be indicative of the fact that ALL matter and energy in existence as we know it, are interconnected at the quantum level.

Now, how do I perform telepathic quantum energy transference in order to control my gun in CSS?


I have to go lie down now.....:rolling_e:



NssB

[Pedro]

Well If I'm ever stuck with something I know who to turn to (Sorry Elite) :D

[PK|Elite]

well its not part of the cirriculam martin, as we finished everything in AS level we have some time to kill before next year, so we use our physics lesson to lear about things that we probably wont get the chance to do unless doing physics at university. Our teacher loves all this stuff. As do I.

[PK|Cerro]

The important thing to remember about all that though is... its all THEORY.

No one has proved it yet and since it is impossible to dis-prove anything without being able to prove it first (or prove something closely related) then the theory is there as a "placeholder". It's the same argument used by the religious types - "I don't need to prove god exists because I can feel his prescence - no one has disproved his existance so therefore he must exist"

E=MC2 has been proved to a point... not to the speed of light, it is just an assumption that anything with a mass would be unable to reach the speed of light as that mass would become infinite.

I believe we have free will - I make the decision to do something, no one else. Kill the fly, don't kill the fly, that's my choice... if not then its already been decided that I will kill the fly. Because we are self aware, we have the choice which makes humans less predictable. That's not to say we are not influenced by external stimuli but in the end it still comes down to our personal choice.

This debate seems to be a modern day, expanded "is life just a dream?" question though. However I'd probably go with (1), it's human nature to kill each other and who better to make us extinct than ourselves? I reckon there will be a 3rd world war over water supplies...

[PK|ReUsed]

yay. Cerro Representing the anti-studenty "new-age" Philosophy, ie: utter bullshit. So Bhuddism is the new cool religion? like I care.

I Like to think we live and work on this place called earth. When you zone out and start thinking imaginary thoughts of imaginary people and imaginary people and imaginary gods, that's your imagination. nothing more.

As for Which cool movies people might like to be in, well I'm sorry to say, that's purely makebelieve. Sorry! take off your trenchcoats and put your shades away. It's buisness as usual.

[PK|Cerro]

Was that an arguement? And who was talking about the Matrix?

How do you know if you are deluded or not - does a crazy person know they are crazy?

[PK|Benjy]

It takes as much effort to prove that something doesn't exist as it does to prove that it does.

[PK|Cerro]

That's not the point... you can't disprove something.