Graphics Card question

[PK|PopeBuckfastXVI]

Hey guys, eoin here one of hughs mates. Have a techie GFX card question for ye.
I want to upgrade my graphics card but have a a pretty old mobo at the mo. its an MSI 854PE, the one with the 478slot support. Well its only got a AGP4x slot on it. Will one of the newer Nvidia AGP8x card work on this. (I think the mobo agp slot on supports 1.5V, no 3.3V support).

Thanks for your help guys, I realise I should probably upgrade the whole set up, but i'm hopping to hold off for another couple of years.

Eoin

[PK|PopeBuckfastXVI]

here's a link to the mobo spec page.

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=571&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=

[PK|Cerro]

a x8 AGP will work, though obviously it will run at x4 - there is not a huge performance difference. I think your biggest problem will be the voltages and its hard to tell with most cards, unless you manage to dig up their technical specifications - most retailers won't list voltage requirements.

I don't think any of the new(ish) cards will work with just 1.5V - is it worth the money and effort looking for one when you would have to bin it in any new PC anyway? You could just buy a cheap system for £300 or something...

[PK|Elite]

You could just buy a cheap system for £300 or something...

And nowadays a good pc will come around £300-£400 if bought sepratley an put together by urself

[PK|Cerro]

And nowadays a good pc will come around £300-£400 if bought sepratley an put together by urself

If it falls off the back of a truck maybe?

£150 Cpu
£100 Motherboard
£150 Ram
£200 Graphics card

Then you still have to add a case, soundcard, PSU, hard disks and dvd drives... won't get a good PC for less than £600. "Good" being:

E6600
Motherboard with plenty of functions (Raid, 6 sata ports and good performance)
800Mhz Cas4 Ram or 1066Mhz Cas5 DDR2 Ram (from a good brand)
8800GTS 320Mb (Not from one of the cheap nasty suppliers like Club3D)

[PK|Elite]

a good pc tfor me is a wrking pc.. i had to look for parts for a friend, for about £350 he got...

A case for about 20
A 7600gt
An AM2 motherboard
An Athlon X2 [2.1ghz]
1gb of ram.

He already had a psu, mouse and other peripherals so didnt need to buy them untill he could afford it..
a sound card wasnt a must and the onboard sound was good enough for his level of playing...

[PK|Cerro]

Thats not good, thats functional... a gamer really needs more.

[PK|Elite]

i did alright with one 6600gt, 1gb of ram and a 2.0 ghz processor (just athlon), which was much less than the "functional" pc... A gamers pc is anything that someone can play any game with the fun that the gamer should get out of it.., obviously there are better gamer pc's and more fun wll brought out of it... but i wouldnt think the adverage gamer needs more, unless he really wanted

[PK|Deep Blue]

I get by on a SLI 6600GT setup with 1gb of ram and an athlon64 3500 processor just fine ma'am :)

And yes, AGP 8x cards will run in a AGP4x board, all be it at 4x speeds :D

[PK|Colonel Ames]

Thats not good, thats functional... a gamer really needs more.Where in that young mans post did it specify he was a gamer? surely based on the fact he is still running on AGPx4 would suggest that he doesn't play games.

[BoNes]

I beg to differ being a AGP 4X habitual user (but I suppose my skill level would not be classed at a gamer level :bigcry: )

[PK|Cerro]

Where in that young mans post did it specify he was a gamer? surely based on the fact he is still running on AGPx4 would suggest that he doesn't play games.

Why else do you need a gfx card - if you're not a gamer, go integrated gfx - you don't need anything else in that case. But I never claimed he was a gamer, I simply stated that a gamer needs more than something functional. READ :rolling_e

x4 AGP is not much difference from x8 AGP - there isn't even a huge jump from x8 AGP to PCI Express (well not until recently with DX10 cards). PCI Express 2.0 will be a bigger jump however, as soon as cards can take advantage of it.