new rig for april 2007

[Cloud]

after a few nights of thinking of what to get i got to a decision...

i give u the new rig for April 2007 ( might still change )

768Mb XFX 8800GTX PCI-E (x16), Mem 1800 MHz, GPU 575 MHz, 128 Streams, HDTV 2 x Dual Link DVI

550W Xclio Greatpower Modular SLi U-Quiet 14cm Fan 87%+ Efficiency ATX2.2Trio+12v EPS 4SATA 6x PCI-E

Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core QX6700, 775, 2.66 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache, OEM

EVGA 122-CK-NF68 NF680i SLI, S775, PCI-E(x16), DDR2 1200/533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX

2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2 Pro, DDR2 PC2-6400, 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, EPP


give me your thought on this one ladies

[PK|PopeBuckfastXVI]

guh? if I understood anything you wrote I'd tell you my opinion on it!

[PK|w3ndi]

ditto but i would like to mention its my 18th bday in april :D

[PK|Cerro]

after a few nights of thinking of what to get i got to a decision...

i give u the new rig for April 2007 ( might still change )

768Mb XFX 8800GTX PCI-E (x16), Mem 1800 MHz, GPU 575 MHz, 128 Streams, HDTV 2 x Dual Link DVI

550W Xclio Greatpower Modular SLi U-Quiet 14cm Fan 87%+ Efficiency ATX2.2Trio+12v EPS 4SATA 6x PCI-E

Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad-Core QX6700, 775, 2.66 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, 8MB Cache, OEM

EVGA 122-CK-NF68 NF680i SLI, S775, PCI-E(x16), DDR2 1200/533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX

2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2 Pro, DDR2 PC2-6400, 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, EPP


give me your thought on this one ladies

RAM should be better - you want Corsair Dominiator ram - more pricey but RAM will give you much improved performance. Why get an SLi board but only one gfx card? Intel chipsets are more reliable and give better performance. Make sure that PSU gives what its rated to give, because if its not quality it will probably not be enough.

Is it really worth that massive premium for the Quad Core Extreme? Sure, Extreme edition intel's are finally worth the extra for overclocking purposes but are you actually intending on overclocking? (from the ram you have chosen i guess not) So unless you overclock heavily, i'd stick to the standard line intels.

Lastly remember, this is april 2007... like 5 months away! Prices and bits and bobs will change fairly drastically. There will probably be standard quad-cores available which will be more powerful than the current duo's available and there might be a new intel chipset available because the 975X is the only top of the line chipset out and it was not designed with conroe in mind. 965P however is and will give slightly improved performance but it doesn't have all the extras that a 975X would have (like crossfire capability)... so i expect a new X type chipset - atm the MSI 965P is probably the best intel board available.

I've spec'd my machine but im going to wait for cheaper gfx cards and for the ram to come down a little - with any luck the new intel chipset will appear but im not holding my breath, so i'll probably get the 965P.

[PK|Default PlayR]

by april 07 most of that stuff will be out of date! lol

[PK|Deep Blue]

April?

hehe, i'll still be skint in april :bigcry:

and if i'm not....

It'll be a case of build a pc for £800 again that'll last 2 years and kick the arse outta all your intel shiznat :P

Once thats done, I need to finish my car with

Finishing gauge install (water temp, oil temp, oil pressure)
Fix CD player (rip it out and fit a new one)
Refurb wheels
FMIC
Turbo timer
Coilovers
new rods and arms
manual conversion
and some sorta bodykit (http://www.srbpower.com/uras/aero/s14a-silvia-type-2.php)

finishing at around 350bhp with similar torque figures

[PK|Cerro]

AMD are playing catch up and Intel are completely overpowering AMD in every department now! Get with the times! :rolling_e

and better still - Intel are still cheaper!

And lets face it, AMD haven't produced a reliable dual core/quad core processor yet, X2's are just shite.

[PK|Argaf]

I'd also suggest going for a non-intel cpu cooling solution.

I have a 600watt psu, and I suggest you go for the same or more.

[Cloud]

I'd also suggest going for a non-intel cpu cooling solution.

I have a 600watt psu, and I suggest you go for the same or more.

as dumb as this question sounds .. how much is your electricity bill ? (not joking )

[Cloud]

RAM should be better - you want Corsair Dominiator ram - more pricey but RAM will give you much improved performance. Why get an SLi board but only one gfx card? Intel chipsets are more reliable and give better performance. Make sure that PSU gives what its rated to give, because if its not quality it will probably not be enough.

Is it really worth that massive premium for the Quad Core Extreme? Sure, Extreme edition intel's are finally worth the extra for overclocking purposes but are you actually intending on overclocking? (from the ram you have chosen i guess not) So unless you overclock heavily, i'd stick to the standard line intels.

Lastly remember, this is april 2007... like 5 months away! Prices and bits and bobs will change fairly drastically. There will probably be standard quad-cores available which will be more powerful than the current duo's available and there might be a new intel chipset available because the 975X is the only top of the line chipset out and it was not designed with conroe in mind. 965P however is and will give slightly improved performance but it doesn't have all the extras that a 975X would have (like crossfire capability)... so i expect a new X type chipset - atm the MSI 965P is probably the best intel board available.

I've spec'd my machine but im going to wait for cheaper gfx cards and for the ram to come down a little - with any luck the new intel chipset will appear but im not holding my breath, so i'll probably get the 965P.


im not in to hardware to much so i was just tring to get the best in my price range. I was wondering thou, wont the gfx card run slower with a less efficient cpu ? its like having a 500hp car with no wheels.

[PK|Argaf]

as dumb as this question sounds .. how much is your electricity bill ? (not joking )

Too much - lol.

But think of what that psu is driving in your PC, as well as the core motherboard I have extra pci Sound, agp Graphics, 2 Hard Drives, 2 DVD Rewriters, 3 external fans, CPU fan, chipset fan, case monitoring system.

Not having enough power supply can lead to excessive heating and odd system errors/crashes/etc.

[PK|Cerro]

the new intel processors generate far less heat - like less than the current topline AMDs - the extreme edition intels have a different cooler to the standard conroes so unless you go for heavy overclocking the stock cooler is actually one of the best - you might get a couple degrees off with an aftermarket cooler but unless your overclocking...

Well you would create a system bottleneck... but you're going to have a bottleneck somewhere! The PC is going to be limited in some way by one (or several) bits of hardware. In most cases its the gfx cards - in the case of the best gfx card, then your cpu/ram will probably be the bottleneck. If you get a extreme edition intel then the gfx card might be the bottleneck! its all a case of how much money you are willing to spend and if you think the cost is worth it in terms of performance. You also have to keep in mind that having the very best of everything, doesn't mean you will actually "see" it, because there might not be the games/applications to push your system and then some new technology appears which makes your hardware obsolete (not slow) like whats happening with 32bit and 64bit applications - a top end 32bit system might well run everything at max settings but if the application is 64bit only then it can't run it at all! See what I am saying?

[Cloud]

the new intel processors generate far less heat - like less than the current topline AMDs - the extreme edition intels have a different cooler to the standard conroes so unless you go for heavy overclocking the stock cooler is actually one of the best - you might get a couple degrees off with an aftermarket cooler but unless your overclocking...

Well you would create a system bottleneck... but you're going to have a bottleneck somewhere! The PC is going to be limited in some way by one (or several) bits of hardware. In most cases its the gfx cards - in the case of the best gfx card, then your cpu/ram will probably be the bottleneck. If you get a extreme edition intel then the gfx card might be the bottleneck! its all a case of how much money you are willing to spend and if you think the cost is worth it in terms of performance. You also have to keep in mind that having the very best of everything, doesn't mean you will actually "see" it, because there might not be the games/applications to push your system and then some new technology appears which makes your hardware obsolete (not slow) like whats happening with 32bit and 64bit applications - a top end 32bit system might well run everything at max settings but if the application is 64bit only then it can't run it at all! See what I am saying?


:) got it